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Apr 07, 2006


Chapeldurham Do you, like me, consider Carrboro, Chapel Hill and Durham a contiguous body distinct from Raleigh?

Well, the federal government does -- they split our MSAs a few years ago.

All I know is that I'll make a 25 minute drive from Durham to Carrboro without hesitation.  But the same 25 minute drive to Raleigh seems much more laborious.

Jenny, Jerry, Barbara and I were talking about this last Sunday over lunch at Pancho Lopez.

We came up with a couple of names for the CCHD lump, but I can't remember exactly what. Something like "CarrElHillAm" and a few others.

How about you - got any ideas?


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I think it's because the 25-minute drive to Raleigh involves a major interstate. It's easy to think of Durham as "just up the road" when the road is good ol' 15-501, even though driving on it can be just as infuriating (if not moreso) than driving on I-40.

Also, the beltline acts as a kind of figurative moat surrounding the castle of Raleigh. When all you hear about the beltline is traffic reports of accidents happening on it, it gets a rep for danger. Us provincial types become afraid to cross it.

Posted by: Jerry | Apr 7, 2006 10:51:58 AM

ChapDurBoro? CarrDurHill?

(I know Durham's not in the middle, but if they're all lumped together who cares who's in what spot?)

Posted by: minty | Apr 7, 2006 10:54:13 AM

How about we just call it Durham? ;)

Posted by: Joseph H. Vilas | Apr 7, 2006 11:06:15 AM

Charrburham is correct sir.

Posted by: Jenny P. | Apr 7, 2006 12:27:25 PM

What's an MSA?

Posted by: Jenny P. | Apr 7, 2006 12:29:09 PM

Metropolitan Statistical Area, I think. I believe the Census Bureau has something to do with setting them up. The older Raleigh-Durham area had a combined total of maybe 1.1 million people?

Posted by: Joseph H. Vilas | Apr 7, 2006 2:40:25 PM

Thanks for the definition. :-)

Posted by: Stewpants/Jenny P./Lastewie | Apr 7, 2006 4:04:22 PM


I like this one for its order and its emphasizability. Though I end up pronouncing the "Du" more like "Duh" than the "Duu" more typical for Durham.

Posted by: Phil | Apr 8, 2006 6:57:29 PM

I say call it the "West Triangle Conurbation"! Doesn't that just reek demographic savoir-faire? And people could abbreviate it to "WTC"! Ooops, never mind.

Posted by: Brian Rice | Apr 8, 2006 9:22:31 PM

How about Carrham Hill? Doesn't it sound like a subdivision in North Raleigh, which will probably be apt in fifteen years?

Posted by: marianne | Apr 9, 2006 8:24:05 AM

"Carrham Hill". Wasn't that a movie with Hugh Grant and Julia Roberts?

And yes, it does sound like a subdivision in North Raleigh. And I'll do anything at all to fight that, so no! (But thank you for describing such a horrible future .)

Posted by: Phil | Apr 9, 2006 11:26:09 AM

Hmm... Joe gives me an idea: how about "WestAngle" for "Western Triangle"?

Or "TriBePort"? (Triangle beyond the airport?)

Re: DuChaBoRough is that it can include Hillsorough if you want. Same pronunciation, different spelling.

Posted by: Phil | Apr 9, 2006 7:17:47 PM

I'm happy to go to Durham anytime. Whenever something compels me to go farther to Raleigh, I sigh. If I can avoid I-40, I do for as long a stretch as possible.

I just call it "there" and "here". "Here" includes Chapel Hill, Carrboro, and to a certain extent Durham. Raleigh is most definitely "there."

Posted by: pinky | Apr 9, 2006 7:29:45 PM


Skips the Chapel Hill reference, but includes it by inference. Sounds good, too. Hmmm.

Posted by: Phil | Apr 10, 2006 12:05:29 AM

anything beginning with "Du" will get pronounced as in "duke" instead of as in "durham" or "duh" -- you'll want to be careful of that or the 'heels won't go for it ;-)

Posted by: sharon | Apr 10, 2006 6:06:02 PM

Can we get in a Simpsons reference and call it "D'ohrange County"?

Posted by: Joseph H. Vilas | Apr 11, 2006 12:48:48 AM

I feel the same way about making the trek to Raleigh and I believe it's due to the "Andy Griffith" factor: A drive to Raleigh is "goin' to the big town." It's an event.

Posted by: Sus | Apr 16, 2006 6:37:56 PM

If you're worried about the "Du" being mistaken for "Duke", then I'd like to suggest Durchaboro.

Posted by: Sus | Apr 16, 2006 6:39:40 PM


That's what's starting to stick in my head. Or at least that's what started sticking last night.

1. Clarity. We know exactly what we're referring to (at least, we know at least *part* of exactly what we're referring to).

2. It fits an existing structure "Chapel Hill". But we just change one word.

3. Durham and Chapel Hill each get a complete word.

4. It'll Google well.


1. Durham gets a second hand position -- the bigger part of the dog in the smaller half of the name.

2. Carrboro (and Randy's other boro/ughs -- Pitts and Hills) get nothing. Again. Still.

3. Not sufficiently "new" or distinctive like DuChaBoro or WestAngle or Snizzpofer

Posted by: Phil | Apr 17, 2006 4:25:20 PM

Hm. To me it's one blob. But then I grew up in Raleigh, which might make my opinion Suspect.

Posted by: gina | May 16, 2006 4:19:27 PM

There's a new magazine called fifteen501. Very clever. Sounds good. Looks good. I hope the magazine will succeed.

In the land of howevers, though, fifteen501 excludes Carrboro. So.... My new-carnation is the fifteen501-54. Or maybe just the 15-54. Ooh, I like that. fifteen54. Except for no one will know what that means. Damn. Argh. Etc.

Posted by: Phil | Aug 7, 2006 2:44:52 AM